1 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,190 as the countdown to mars continues 2 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:25,120 the perseverance of humanity launching 3 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:27,200 the next generation of robotic explorers 4 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:32,210 to the red planet 5 00:03:39,710 --> 00:04:07,750 [Music] 6 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:10,309 nasa's mars perseverance rover left 7 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,319 earth six months ago 8 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,480 now we are gearing up for touchdown on 9 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,560 the red planet this week 10 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:18,239 the rover will attempt to land in 11 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:20,239 jezreel crater this thursday 12 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:22,400 it's the most difficult landing site on 13 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:24,160 mars ever attempted 14 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:26,639 but the perseverance rover and the team 15 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:29,040 are ready welcome to nasa's jet 16 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:30,720 propulsion laboratory in southern 17 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:31,680 california 18 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:34,400 i'm marina jurica your host today as we 19 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,759 bring you a closer look 20 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:38,400 into perseverance's mission and science 21 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:38,960 goals 22 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:40,960 we will discuss the new advanced 23 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:42,479 instruments on board 24 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:45,040 why this landing site was chosen and how 25 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:47,360 perseverance fits into nasa's future 26 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:48,000 plans 27 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:51,120 for mars sample return as we are social 28 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,960 distancing i will introduce you to some 29 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,040 of the key scientists on the mission 30 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:57,680 here and joining us virtually on our 31 00:05:01,270 --> 00:04:58,560 panel today 32 00:05:01,990 --> 00:05:01,280 are nasa planetary science division 33 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:02,000 director 34 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:05,759 lori glaze perseverance deputy project 35 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,440 scientist ken williford 36 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:11,600 principal investigator for the sherlock 37 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:14,400 instrument luther beagle 38 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:16,720 principal investigator for the mass cam 39 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:17,840 z instrument 40 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:21,840 jim bell principal investigator for the 41 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:22,560 super cam 42 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:24,639 instrument from the institute the 43 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:27,120 research on astrophysique a planetology 44 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:28,639 known as irap 45 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,680 in france sylvester maurice 46 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:33,440 for anyone watching who would like to 47 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,720 submit a question 48 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:36,800 you can do so by using the countdown to 49 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:38,240 mars hashtag 50 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:40,080 our phone lines are now open to the 51 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:42,560 media you can ask a question by pressing 52 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:45,039 star one and enter the queue 53 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:48,320 to start i'd like to welcome lori glaze 54 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:50,639 good afternoon lori good afternoon nice 55 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,240 to see you marina 56 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:54,960 so nasa has been exploring mars for more 57 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:56,160 than 50 years 58 00:06:00,309 --> 00:05:58,240 and we are just getting so excited as we 59 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:00,319 prepare for thursday 60 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:03,360 and although we now know that mars 61 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,880 now today is cold and dry 62 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:08,880 and a place that's bombarded by cosmic 63 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:10,880 rays really a place that's inhospitable 64 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:12,240 to hosting life 65 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,639 today what we've learned over the last 66 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:15,680 couple of decades 67 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:18,080 in our exploration of mars is that mars 68 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:19,039 was much 69 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:21,600 warmer and wetter a few billion years 70 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:22,240 ago 71 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:24,479 and that some of the environments on 72 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,600 mars 73 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:27,919 actually could have had all of the right 74 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:29,039 ingredients 75 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,680 to support microbial life at about the 76 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,440 same time that life emerged 77 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:35,440 on earth if i could have the first 78 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:36,800 graphic there it is 79 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:39,680 you can see on the far left we began our 80 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:42,880 rover program in 1997 with sojourner and 81 00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:45,039 all of these rovers have helped pave the 82 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:47,360 way for our understanding of the mars 83 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:48,000 environment 84 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:49,759 and what mars is like and how it has 85 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:51,360 evolved over time and 86 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:53,680 led us to the perseverance mission that 87 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:56,080 we're waiting to land on thursday 88 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,080 so the sojourner rover kicked it off in 89 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:00,960 97 followed by spirit and opportunity 90 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:03,360 shown there towards the left spirit and 91 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:04,639 opportunity were really 92 00:07:08,150 --> 00:07:07,360 following the water on mars trying to 93 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:08,160 identify 94 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:10,000 was liquid water ever present in 95 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:11,919 substantial quantities over a 96 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:14,319 extended period of time on mars and they 97 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:16,319 found rocks that really did require 98 00:07:20,469 --> 00:07:18,000 water to be present in order for them to 99 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:20,479 be formed the next step of course was 100 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,000 the curiosity rover 101 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:24,560 and curiosity went to gale crater 102 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:25,680 looking to 103 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:28,000 identify searching for habitable 104 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:30,080 environments exploring habitability on 105 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:30,800 mars 106 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:33,680 and in gale crater was able to confirm 107 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:34,000 that 108 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,800 yes liquid water was present on mars for 109 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,639 an extended period of time 110 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,800 long enough to deposit sediments on the 111 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:42,479 on the floor of gale crater 112 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:45,039 to generate and create clays that are 113 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:46,080 are found 114 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,440 in some of the units there at gale 115 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:49,440 crater and also we found 116 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:51,759 complex organic molecules so with the 117 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:52,560 water 118 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,560 and the complex organic molecules two of 119 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:56,720 the real key ingredients to life were 120 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:57,440 present 121 00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:59,360 and in a habitable environment there 122 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:01,599 that they life could have possibly 123 00:08:07,589 --> 00:08:04,639 started to take form and all of that 124 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:07,599 led the way and prepared us to design 125 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:09,280 the perseverance rover 126 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:11,280 which is really now our first mission 127 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:14,000 our first mobile astrobiologist 128 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:16,639 that's out really seeking the signs of 129 00:08:20,469 --> 00:08:17,680 life 130 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:20,479 perseverance is our next step in 131 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:21,599 exploration 132 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:22,879 and we've learned from everything that 133 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:24,639 we've learned we've been able to better 134 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:25,360 identify 135 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:27,280 exactly what kind of site we wanted to 136 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:29,680 visit that had the highest probability 137 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:32,640 of having preserved ancient microbial 138 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:34,080 life and ken williford is going to speak 139 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:35,360 a little bit more to that in a few 140 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:36,240 minutes 141 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:39,039 we also are now better prepared to 142 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:39,760 design the 143 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:41,360 instruments and the experiments that we 144 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:43,039 want to conduct on the surface of mars 145 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:44,640 specifically designed 146 00:08:49,430 --> 00:08:47,440 to look for those markers those uh 147 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:49,440 biologic markers that can give us a hint 148 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:50,240 that perhaps 149 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:52,640 there was life early in mars's history 150 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,080 and that it might be preserved in those 151 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:56,080 rocks at jezreel crater 152 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,640 and then of course the next step beyond 153 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:00,240 perseverance will be 154 00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:02,880 the uh the ability to bring samples back 155 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:04,399 so perseverance is going to 156 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:06,080 identify rocks that we'd like to bring 157 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:08,640 back to earth drill the rocks and soil 158 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:10,240 save them on the surface for that next 159 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:12,080 mission that you see which is mars 160 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:13,760 sample return which will launch those 161 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:14,720 samples 162 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,800 back to earth back into orbit and then 163 00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:18,480 captured and returned back to earth 164 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:19,279 eventually 165 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:21,440 and then preparing the way for human 166 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:22,399 exploration 167 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:23,839 at some time in the not too distant 168 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,560 future the mars sample return project of 169 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:28,240 course is probably the most 170 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:30,000 challenging thing we've ever attempted 171 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:32,240 within nasa and we don't do any of these 172 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:33,680 things alone 173 00:09:37,269 --> 00:09:35,920 between our partnerships on perseverance 174 00:09:39,030 --> 00:09:37,279 and partnerships for 175 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:39,040 our sample return we have almost a dozen 176 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:41,360 international partners that we work with 177 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:44,800 and together we are hoping to learn 178 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:47,200 if life ever existed in the ancient past 179 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:48,160 on mars 180 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,519 and so with that i'd like to hand it 181 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:51,120 over to ken um who's going to talk a 182 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:52,800 little bit about what we might find in 183 00:09:59,910 --> 00:09:58,630 well thanks laurie uh for that great 184 00:10:02,389 --> 00:09:59,920 introduction 185 00:10:04,069 --> 00:10:02,399 and uh i want to start out by just 186 00:10:07,509 --> 00:10:04,079 sharing with you all how 187 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:07,519 fortunate i feel how excited i am to be 188 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:10,560 uh you know just days away from a 189 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:12,720 really a momentous occasion uh 190 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:14,959 technically with all the work it's taken 191 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:17,440 to to get our spacecraft to where it is 192 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:18,160 now and 193 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:21,600 also scientifically 194 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:23,920 just for me personally the opportunity 195 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:25,120 to um 196 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:27,680 be a part of this mission which is 197 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:28,640 directly 198 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:30,720 looking for life on other planets it's 199 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:33,519 really a scientific dream come true 200 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:37,040 it's not an exaggeration uh so 201 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:40,320 so it's going to be a big week for us um 202 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:44,399 and pulling back a bit um 203 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:45,760 if you take a minute to think about it 204 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:47,920 the implications of the science of this 205 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:48,880 mission 206 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:52,160 are really enormous i mean where mars 207 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:53,200 2020 and 208 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:55,760 mars sample return as laurie described 209 00:10:59,590 --> 00:10:57,040 are about 210 00:11:00,790 --> 00:10:59,600 really an age-old question you know are 211 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:00,800 we alone 212 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,160 in the universe we say that a lot but um 213 00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:06,079 you know about these astrobiology 214 00:11:10,310 --> 00:11:07,279 missions but 215 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:10,320 um it's a big a big question if you stop 216 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:11,360 to think about it 217 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:14,480 is you know our we know that that life 218 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:16,720 exists on earth we know earth is a very 219 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:18,800 hospitable planet and has been for 220 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:20,240 billions of years 221 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:23,680 uh life obviously thrives here today um 222 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:26,240 but are we are we alone in in a sort of 223 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:28,000 vast cosmic desert 224 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:30,079 you know just flying through space or is 225 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:31,760 life much more common 226 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:34,000 uh does it just emerge whenever and 227 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,920 wherever the conditions are right 228 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:38,240 big basic questions and we don't know 229 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:39,760 the answers yet so we're 230 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:42,320 we're really uh on the verge of being 231 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:42,959 able to 232 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:45,040 to potentially answer these these 233 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:46,640 enormous questions 234 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:49,200 um to start to get a feeling for the 235 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:50,880 kinds of things we might 236 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:54,160 uh hope to find at our landing site in 237 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:55,920 jezreel crater 238 00:12:00,550 --> 00:11:58,560 a group of us from nasa some nasa 239 00:12:03,829 --> 00:12:00,560 scientists and some esa scientists 240 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:03,839 european space agency scientists went to 241 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,600 australia to a place called the pilbara 242 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:06,720 so if we could just get the 243 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:10,079 the video and this place in 244 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:13,920 western australia um holds what is what 245 00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:15,040 is really the best 246 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:18,079 early evidence for life on earth so this 247 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:19,040 is where this is 248 00:12:22,629 --> 00:12:20,800 uh the rocks that were deposited about 249 00:12:25,269 --> 00:12:22,639 three and a half billion years ago 250 00:12:26,949 --> 00:12:25,279 here on earth where you know pretty much 251 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:26,959 any scientist who works in this field 252 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,680 can agree 253 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:29,680 we have very good evidence for life 254 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:30,800 there um 255 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:33,120 and what does that look like and so here 256 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:34,880 you see us actually exploring 257 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:37,920 um you know the shores actually not none 258 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:39,839 in this specific spot but but we did on 259 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:40,639 that trip 260 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:42,240 explore the shores of an ancient lake 261 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:44,000 and i'll just hold up this rock sample 262 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:45,200 that i brought back 263 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:46,880 hopefully you get a good focused image 264 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:48,560 of that you can see it on your screen as 265 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:49,680 well in a picture 266 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:51,680 but this is a stromatolite sample that i 267 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:53,040 brought back 268 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:56,399 from a 2.7 billion year old lake deposit 269 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:57,519 so it originally would have been 270 00:13:02,790 --> 00:12:59,600 oriented like this with a dome 271 00:13:04,710 --> 00:13:02,800 of microbial mats and so 272 00:13:06,389 --> 00:13:04,720 these are structures that form when 273 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:06,399 little microscopic single-celled 274 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:08,399 organisms like bacteria 275 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:11,120 join together in in communities and 276 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:11,519 layer 277 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:13,920 one on top of the other and sometimes 278 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:16,639 exude these sticky substances 279 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:19,120 that can trap and bind sediment 280 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:20,240 particles there 281 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,079 the organisms themselves can also 282 00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:24,959 stimulate the precipitation of minerals 283 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:26,959 thereby entombing themselves sort of 284 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,360 making their own microbial fossil 285 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:30,959 which as we can see in the case of that 286 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:32,639 rock i showed you can be preserved for 287 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:34,320 billions of years 288 00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:36,959 and so in a sense to answer these big 289 00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:38,320 questions we're going 290 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:41,279 back in time three to four billion years 291 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:43,279 ago to look at this very ancient lake 292 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:44,000 system 293 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:45,360 and look at all the different sub 294 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:47,440 environments uh in and around that 295 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:48,720 ancient lake 296 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:50,880 and um asking you know what was this 297 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:52,880 environment like could it have supported 298 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:53,360 life 299 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:55,760 but then taking that next step as laurie 300 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,480 said 301 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,959 uh and and looking for any evidence that 302 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:00,560 life may have left behind like these 303 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:01,600 stromatolites 304 00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:05,120 or what we might more likely expect 305 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:05,920 something 306 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:08,720 significantly more ambiguous so that 307 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:09,839 that ambiguity 308 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,560 that tends to uh you know be a part of 309 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:14,160 the search for the most ancient record 310 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:15,120 of life on earth 311 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:17,040 and we can expect it to be the same on 312 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:18,720 mars that ambiguity 313 00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:20,959 is why we need this incredibly complex 314 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:22,959 and capable scientific payload 315 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,720 so to start telling you a bit more about 316 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:26,880 that i'll pass it to luther beagle who's 317 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:27,760 the principal 318 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:29,519 investigator of the sherlock instrument 319 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:31,440 on mars 2020. 320 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:32,560 hey ken thanks for that great 321 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,560 introduction i really appreciate it when 322 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:36,320 i got to jpl in april 323 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:39,199 of 1997 we were getting ready to land 324 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:40,160 soldier 325 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:42,320 rover on mars and it was a very exciting 326 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,920 time to be here and i thought stuff like 327 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,440 that happened all the time 328 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:47,519 um didn't realize exactly how much hard 329 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,120 work went into it until 330 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:51,680 later on when myrrh and then msl and now 331 00:14:54,629 --> 00:14:53,120 2020 lands 332 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,639 but it's a great time to be here and i'm 333 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,399 honored to be part of this project 334 00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:57,440 the science we're going to do is 335 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:00,000 spectacular uh as ken mentioned i'm the 336 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:02,399 principal investigator of the sherlock 337 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:03,519 instrument that's on our mounted 338 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:05,120 instrument on the end of on the 339 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,480 perseverance rover 340 00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:08,480 um we chose sherlock because we're going 341 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:10,000 to mars to look for clues we're looking 342 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,240 for clues for two specific things 343 00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:14,079 one we want to know whether mars could 344 00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:15,839 have been habitable in the past that is 345 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:17,199 were the conditions right 346 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:20,040 to have organic material turn into 347 00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:21,519 microorganisms and 348 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:24,079 with the origin of life the second thing 349 00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:24,880 we're looking for 350 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:27,199 is evidence of that origin of life we're 351 00:15:30,069 --> 00:15:28,399 looking for clues 352 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:30,079 uh with two different things and this is 353 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:31,600 a picture of the instrument 354 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:34,000 that you're seeing here now we have two 355 00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:35,680 different cameras on this instrument 356 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:36,959 the camera on the right as we call 357 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:39,199 watson which is like a magnifying glass 358 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:41,040 sherlock always has magnifying glass 359 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:41,759 with him 360 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:43,519 and what watson does is watson takes 361 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,120 microscopic images 362 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:47,440 and it also takes uh panoramic images as 363 00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,800 well so you can take a picture of the 364 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:50,079 rover 365 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,000 done with mali on msl 366 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:56,480 this is a re-flight of that camera and 367 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,480 we were able to take pictures of the en 368 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,240 of the rover and we're also able to take 369 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:02,079 pictures of the rock and we can actually 370 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:03,920 zoom in on the rock and get down to 371 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:04,720 really 372 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:07,680 fine spatial scales the second camera is 373 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,240 uh 374 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:11,279 camera we take 375 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:13,440 even finer images uh with that 376 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,399 particular camera 377 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:16,399 um and we do spectroscopy we do two 378 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:18,079 different types of spectroscopy raman 379 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:19,120 spectroscopy 380 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:20,639 which tells us what kind of molecules 381 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:22,560 are present on the surface which gives 382 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:24,320 us organic material 383 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,720 chemicals and mineralogy and fluorescent 384 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:28,720 spectroscopy which identifies organic 385 00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:29,680 materials 386 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,519 so how we work on the end of the arm is 387 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,279 a this is a 388 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:35,519 movie you're about to see and it shows 389 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:37,600 how sherlock actually is moved 390 00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:41,120 on the robotic arm this robotic arm 391 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:43,040 you can see sherlock on the outer part 392 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:44,480 of the arm here 393 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:47,759 we attach the drill pixel our sister 394 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:48,320 element 395 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,759 our sister instrument is on the other 396 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:51,600 side of the rover and pixel does 397 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,680 elemental abundances the same way we do 398 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:55,440 on the microscopic scale 399 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,120 we're looking really at really fine 400 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:58,959 scales on mar on mars 401 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:01,279 on the order of 100 microns that's about 402 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:02,880 the size of a human hair and we're 403 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:03,680 looking for 404 00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,480 clues in the in those very small regions 405 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:08,319 this is the way the arm moves this is a 406 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:09,360 video 407 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:11,679 showing how we get deployed we don't 408 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:13,439 bring the sample to us we go to the 409 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:14,079 sample 410 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:16,480 so you can see really how slow the arm 411 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,000 moves and how deliberate it 412 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:20,799 is the arm is really really big and we 413 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,600 can actually 414 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:23,280 where we command it to about five 415 00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:24,799 centimeters above the surface we're a 416 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,559 contactless instrument 417 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:29,039 um and what we are actually doing is 418 00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:29,600 kind of 419 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,400 slide one is we're we're able to map 420 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:34,320 things out we're able to take an image 421 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:34,799 of a 422 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,520 very fine microscopic image and we're 423 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:39,280 able to take our laser and and 424 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,799 raster it across the surface and 425 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:42,960 identify organic material 426 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,679 minerals uh and and the like and we're 427 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:47,440 able to do that with pixel too 428 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,640 so the image on the left is a 429 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:50,880 stromatolite ken like ken showed that we 430 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:53,760 obtained from uh australia and we took 431 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:55,919 two different images uh at the bottom 432 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:58,400 the sherlock one is in the small red box 433 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:00,559 and the pixel one is in the large 434 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,160 larger red rectangle box 435 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:06,880 pixel identifies uh where different 436 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,600 elements are 437 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,840 and we map them out and so we can map 438 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:11,600 out context of 439 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:14,240 in the images with actual organic and 440 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,280 mineral maps 441 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,880 on the right and this tells us a lot 442 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,480 more about the rock than just doing one 443 00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:20,080 instrument by itself so we can take our 444 00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,039 measurements 445 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:23,039 and combine them with pixel and combine 446 00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:24,320 them with supercam which we'll 447 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:26,559 hear about in a second and get a really 448 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:28,160 better idea of what the entire 449 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:30,960 sample is all about the next slide shows 450 00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,440 uh 451 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:33,679 must hermatelite and this particular 452 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:34,720 spermatolate 453 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,960 is from the pillbarrow region and we got 454 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,480 it a few years ago and we wanted to show 455 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:40,320 what we could do with sherlock and so 456 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,240 what we did was is we scanned across the 457 00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:44,000 surface we took an image that's the top 458 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:44,559 image 459 00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:48,160 and wherever you see deep blue 460 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,080 is where there was a microorganism a 461 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:51,600 single-celled organism 462 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:54,240 existed and where you don't see any dark 463 00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,120 blue 464 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:57,200 you see that's not where there's there's 465 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,520 no little or no organisms there 466 00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:01,360 so we scan across and where we where you 467 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:03,919 think where you see organic 468 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:06,640 when you see microorganisms on the 469 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:08,080 outside of the rock you can see them in 470 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:09,360 cracks you can see them in fissures 471 00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:10,480 which is where you would think that 472 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,679 organisms would live 473 00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,200 because they have accessibility to both 474 00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,679 water and nutrients 475 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:17,039 we didn't there were two features on 476 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:18,480 this particular scan that we weren't 477 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:19,440 quite sure about 478 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,360 one is in the upper right hand corner 479 00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:22,799 the dark blue 480 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,559 on the rock and then one is on the 481 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:26,880 bottom left hand corner the purplish 482 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:30,240 uh feature down there 483 00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,240 with these what these two features are 484 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,919 actually the fingerprints of a postdoc 485 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,520 that accidentally picked up the rock so 486 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:37,039 this shows you exactly how sensitive 487 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:38,559 sherlock is we actually were able to 488 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,440 identify 489 00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:41,120 uh the fact that he picked up this rock 490 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,480 without any um 491 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:44,240 gloves on which then contaminated the 492 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,679 surface and we uh 493 00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:47,200 we could get his fingerprints from that 494 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:49,039 surface so that's kind of what sherlock 495 00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:49,440 does 496 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:51,840 and for the uh to understand where we 497 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,480 come where 498 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:54,160 where our samples are looking at in 499 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,760 context i'm going to throw it over to 500 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:56,960 jim bell who's the principal 501 00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:58,000 investigator 502 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:02,240 of mass camzy jim 503 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:05,440 hey uh thanks thanks luther i 504 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,520 am super excited about being able to 505 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:08,960 talk about the science 506 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,440 of our mission and i'm also just super 507 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,480 fortunate uh 508 00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:14,960 to have been able to participate in all 509 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:15,679 four 510 00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:18,960 of nasa's rover missions to mars so far 511 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:21,520 in my career and so this uh this 512 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,320 upcoming 513 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:24,720 seven minutes of terror on the thursday 514 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:25,919 will be my 515 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:28,480 fifth ride down these particular class 516 00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,440 five rapids 517 00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:31,679 and uh just really looking forward to 518 00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:33,039 the great ride the engineer is going to 519 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,520 give us 520 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,200 and then the great science that we're 521 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:37,360 going to do with this mission 522 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,200 i'm here in the mission operations 523 00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,360 center at arizona state university 524 00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,120 in tempe this is the mission operations 525 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,200 center for the mass cam z 526 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:48,720 camera mounted instruments on on 527 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,520 perseverance 528 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,120 this is where our part of the science 529 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,640 and engineering team will be watching 530 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,600 the landing 531 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,320 uh because of covid uh the four or 500 532 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,000 members of the science team can't be all 533 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:00,240 together at jpl like we normally are and 534 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,440 jumping up and down yelling and 535 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:03,600 screaming with the engineers 536 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,240 we can't do that so we're all back at 537 00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,760 our home institutions 538 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,039 and we'll be running our part of the 539 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,039 investigation here 540 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,600 from campus in 10 p so we'll be doing 541 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:15,280 the day-to-day health assessment of the 542 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,080 cameras 543 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:18,640 the calibration the image processing and 544 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:19,679 getting that information 545 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,840 out to the rest of the science team as 546 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:24,400 well as to the public via the jpl and 547 00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,200 nasa 548 00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:28,159 public websites um so if i could have my 549 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:28,559 first 550 00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:32,080 slide up so this 551 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:35,120 rover is loaded 552 00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,440 loaded with engineering and science 553 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,679 cameras galore and microphones and 554 00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:41,760 you'll hear more about those later 555 00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,760 this rover and this mission is going to 556 00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:44,960 be a feast 557 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:47,520 for the eyes and ears it's really going 558 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:48,880 to be spectacular 559 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,240 uh 23 cameras on the rover and its 560 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,400 descent stage itself plus two more 561 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:56,320 cameras on the helicopter 562 00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,679 25 cameras total the most uh camera 563 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,760 heavy mission of deep space robotic 564 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,360 exploration ever sent 565 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,240 out there so very very excited about 566 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:07,919 that and the cameras that we'll be 567 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:10,960 operating and using to help 568 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,799 achieve our mission goals called mass 569 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:14,640 kamzi go to the next one 570 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:17,440 please next slide you can see them up on 571 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:18,080 the mast 572 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,080 and the technician here doing some final 573 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,320 cleaning and check out those square 574 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,360 uh aperture ends there you can see and 575 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,960 i've got a little model here i can show 576 00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:28,480 off it's about the size each one of 577 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,559 those is about the size of a 578 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,640 a typical can of tennis balls for 579 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,960 example and we have two of them 580 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:37,440 the two of them give us stereo vision 581 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,080 they're 582 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,760 the z in mass cam z stands for zoom 583 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:44,640 so we can go from wide angle stereo view 584 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:45,600 of the landscape 585 00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:48,880 all the way to telephoto super close up 586 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,799 high resolution view of the landscape we 587 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:52,640 can resolve features on the millimeter 588 00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,360 scale 589 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,360 close in to the rover and on the 590 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,640 centimeter scale 591 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,400 off at the distance we can see for 592 00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:00,320 example something and resolve something 593 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,080 the size of a house fly 594 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,400 at the length of a football field so 595 00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:06,320 here's an example of the zoom capability 596 00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,039 and the next 597 00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:09,840 uh slides here taking the cameras and 598 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,919 pointing them out the laboratory window 599 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320 we go from the wide-angle view of that 600 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,000 ridge it's about a kilometer away 601 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,960 all the way zooming in to full uh 602 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,400 telephoto 603 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:23,039 so we've spent the past seven years 604 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,240 designing 605 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,600 uh manufacturing testing uh 606 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,360 these cameras with in close 607 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,880 collaboration with our colleagues at 608 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,480 male and space science systems in san 609 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:33,760 diego who have done 610 00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:37,039 a lot of really great deep space cameras 611 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:38,799 we took the engineering model cameras 612 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:40,960 out in the mars yard just last week 613 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,279 this is the engineering model uh rover 614 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,720 we use this to test everything that 615 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:46,320 we're going to do on the real rover 616 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,600 and we took this beautiful 360 degree 617 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:52,159 panorama at a relatively wide angle 618 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,679 setting so about 142 images go into this 619 00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:58,320 rgb color panorama and so we can see all 620 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,360 the way around 621 00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,440 and the rover itself and this is an 622 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:03,279 example of one of the early products 623 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,320 that we'll get from 624 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,480 one of the early saws on the mission 625 00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,400 after we pop that mast up 626 00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,880 and take our first 360 degree look 627 00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:13,600 around we can also project that into a 628 00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:16,080 selfie here's the same view projected 629 00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,840 looking down onto the rover of course 630 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,600 that the cameras tilt up and down as 631 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,520 well we can look down on the rover and 632 00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,200 take a picture of the deck for 633 00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:25,039 characterizing the things on the deck 634 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,559 that the engineers are interested in 635 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,640 as well as our calibration targets which 636 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:30,080 we're very interested in to make sure we 637 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:31,600 get the colors right 638 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,760 so these are just some examples of the 639 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,440 kinds of things that we won't be seeing 640 00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:36,880 the mars yard in jpl 641 00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,080 we'll be seeing jezreel's backyard 642 00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,799 on mars starting next week so we're 643 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,600 we're super 644 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:46,000 excited about that and really excited 645 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:46,880 especially about 646 00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:49,840 sharing all these images with the public 647 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,679 as they start coming down 648 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:54,000 okay so uh you saw a bunch of stuff 649 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,600 going on in that mast 650 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,520 up on top of that mass including the 651 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,360 mass kimseas well we share that space 652 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:01,200 with navigation cameras and with another 653 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,400 science instrument 654 00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,240 uh called supercam and you're going to 655 00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:06,159 hear more about that i'll turn it over 656 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:06,559 to 657 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,720 sylvester maurice for more details take 658 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,400 it away 659 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:13,600 yeah thanks so much jim um thanks really 660 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,080 great 661 00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,320 uh i'm silvers morris i'm the deputy pi 662 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,559 of supercam and i'm glad to attend this 663 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,400 briefing from toulouse and my home 664 00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:22,559 institution here in france 665 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:25,919 very lucky to be here our super cam 666 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,799 is largely innovated from chemcam a very 667 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,720 active instrument on curiosity 668 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:33,360 that has shot its laser more than eight 669 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:34,640 hundred thousand times 670 00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,320 so far similarly to chemcam supercam 671 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:40,000 has been built by the los alamos 672 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,000 national lab in new mexico 673 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:45,120 and france but if supercam seems just 674 00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,600 like 675 00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,080 camcam it is actually very different 676 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:51,039 let's look at the video now 677 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:54,080 supercam is made of three parts the mass 678 00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:54,480 unit 679 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,720 is at the top of the mast it's as high 680 00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:57,919 as 2 meter 681 00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,720 and it looks like the perseverance high 682 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,000 in a rover body 683 00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,320 you have the body unit that handles 684 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,919 communication with the rover 685 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:07,760 and at the rear we have calibration 686 00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:10,400 targets to obtain reference measurements 687 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,279 on well-known standards 688 00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:15,679 supercam consists of three spectroscopy 689 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,720 techniques 690 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:19,120 just like chemcam the mass unit fires an 691 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,240 infrared laser 692 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:23,200 create a plasma and within the body unit 693 00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,080 the return line 694 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,240 is being analyzed and thus we find the 695 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:28,320 atomic composition of the targets 696 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:31,919 how much iron titanium sonia and so on 697 00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:34,880 we also have two new techniques raman 698 00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,799 spectroscopy it's a green laser to 699 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,720 vibrate the molecule just like sherlock 700 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:40,720 with a different kind of laser 701 00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:43,840 we also analyzing infrared light from 702 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,720 the sun 703 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,679 has it's been reflected by the rocks 704 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,880 these are very new 705 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:50,840 both techniques yield a molecular 706 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,640 structure and possibly organic molecules 707 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,120 to find out where we're shooting at we 708 00:27:02,630 --> 00:26:59,679 have also a microscopic imager it's 709 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,640 another camera on gm list 710 00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:05,279 high resolution very small field of view 711 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,039 for ourselves 712 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,200 and at last but not least we have a 713 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,360 microphone one of the two microphones on 714 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,559 a rover 715 00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,640 to listen to the wind leads another 716 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:17,360 rover and also the infrared laser 717 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,039 shooting at mars well you can see that 718 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:23,120 supercam is quite a complex instrument 719 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,080 and yet 720 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,120 a very powerful one it can voice 721 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,320 at the atmosphere at rocks from 2 meter 722 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,640 distance to up to 7 meters 723 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,039 without moving the rover and at scale as 724 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,360 small as one millimeter 725 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,919 so supercam will characterize in situ 726 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:41,520 the habitability 727 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,080 and search for traces of life it will 728 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,000 support sample caching 729 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,919 at this we're going to help to find the 730 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,520 best sample to pick up 731 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,840 and also we're going to document their 732 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:53,440 geological context 733 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,840 that is supercam back to you marina 734 00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,520 thank you so much sylvester and thank 735 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,080 you so much to our panelist presenters 736 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,640 we are now ready to take media questions 737 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,919 remember to press 738 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,880 star one to get put in the queue and 739 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,960 please direct your questions to one of 740 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:12,720 the panelists in particular 741 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,840 we're also taking questions through the 742 00:28:20,669 --> 00:28:16,960 hashtag countdown 743 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,679 to mars our first caller is 744 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,320 chelseagoadwithspace.com good afternoon 745 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:24,000 chelsea 746 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,600 good afternoon thank you for taking my 747 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:27,840 question my question is for ken 748 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,559 williford you mentioned that you and the 749 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,480 larger team studied stromatolites in 750 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:34,480 australia to demonstrate finding and 751 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,200 scanning 752 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:37,520 microorganisms in rock cracks and 753 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,320 fissures 754 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,720 do you expect that if and when 755 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,799 perseverance does identify 756 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:45,279 evidence of ancient organisms on mars 757 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,720 that these organisms 758 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:48,559 might be similar to the microbes you 759 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:58,070 wow yeah it's a fantastic question so we 760 00:29:03,269 --> 00:28:58,480 did 761 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,279 in the pilbara in western australia 762 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,760 for an important reason uh and that's 763 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:07,200 because 764 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,080 in a certain way looking at the earliest 765 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,159 evidence for life on earth 766 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,240 is our best analog to the challenge we 767 00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:15,600 have in front of us 768 00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,200 so the similarities are uh are many 769 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,679 the the environment we were looking at 770 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,200 in australia in the case of 771 00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:25,360 at least this sample that i showed you 772 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,799 was an ancient lake 773 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,080 uh we looked at ancient lake 774 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,880 environments there 775 00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,080 and i think it's it's fair enough to say 776 00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,000 uh of course i could go on forever on 777 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:37,760 this topic but it's fair enough to say 778 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:38,320 that 779 00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:41,600 of a 780 00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,799 life as we know it uh would be cellular 781 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:47,600 that uh prior to we know from the the 782 00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,480 record of 783 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,360 of life on earth that complex uh 784 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,760 organisms complex multicellular 785 00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,919 organisms like we're familiar with today 786 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,120 animals and plants 787 00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:59,440 didn't evolve until fairly late in the 788 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,960 history of the earth after 789 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,640 oxygen rose in the atmosphere to 790 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,720 appreciable levels so we don't 791 00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,480 think anything like that happened on 792 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,559 mars and so we think it's 793 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,720 as likely as not that that any anything 794 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,399 that was alive on mars 795 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,080 three and a half billion years ago would 796 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:15,600 be similar to 797 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,880 to earth bacteria uh and other similar 798 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:20,240 organisms called archaea 799 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,080 which are the kind of organisms that we 800 00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:23,919 think made these stromatolites that we 801 00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:26,799 find in western australia 802 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:30,399 thank you ken our next caller 803 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:33,600 is deanne divis from al jazeera 804 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,399 good afternoon deanne good afternoon 805 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:38,720 thank you for this opportunity 806 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,760 this one is to miss glaze 807 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,600 it was mentioned in the last briefing 808 00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:45,360 that nasa hopes to use 809 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:48,320 activities on the lunar surface to 810 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:49,360 inform 811 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,480 future mars exploration i was wondering 812 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,399 if that might also be true from 813 00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:56,799 the mars work that your team is doing 814 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,880 will it inform the work that will be 815 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,120 happening through artemis or any other 816 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,080 lunar activities 817 00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,919 a really interesting question and i 818 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:07,519 think everything that we do is helping 819 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:09,760 to inform everything across the board 820 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:12,480 uh we're we're working together always 821 00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,120 science and 822 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,120 and exploration working hand in hand 823 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:17,200 science enabling exploration exploration 824 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,640 enabling science 825 00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:20,399 and certainly i think some of the things 826 00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:21,840 that we're we're going to be doing 827 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:25,039 on mars um thinking about uh 828 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,559 uh you know how to uh to 829 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:30,240 make take advantage of resources that 830 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,440 are local of course it'd be a little 831 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,640 differently when we're 832 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,000 talking about the moon but thinking 833 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,640 about how we do this actually in situ 834 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:39,440 are things that will feed forward so 835 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,840 there's 836 00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:42,240 a lot we can do there working together i 837 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,039 don't know that i have anything 838 00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,880 specifically as far as a direct 839 00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:46,720 link but as i said we work together 840 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:49,279 really closely 841 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,720 if i might ask a follow-up rimfax 842 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,880 could you speak to rimfax and what it 843 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,320 will what you'll be looking for with 844 00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,000 rimfax 845 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,039 bet um so 846 00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,960 rimfax is a really uh interesting 847 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,559 instrument that is actually a ground 848 00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,000 penetrating radar 849 00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,120 uh that's going to be able to uh see uh 850 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,279 several feet uh tens of feet below the 851 00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:13,120 surface and that allows us to 852 00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,799 actually better understand what the 853 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,559 structure is beneath 854 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,320 the surface that we can see and that 855 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,000 we're going to be driving over 856 00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,240 so like i said we know that there should 857 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,399 be these sediments that will be present 858 00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,640 at the bottom you know beneath the the 859 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,159 rover but somewhere beneath that we 860 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,760 might be able to see what if there's any 861 00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,360 other geologic structure 862 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,519 uh within those sediments or or maybe 863 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:35,440 even the the base of those 864 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:38,080 so using rem facts will be able to uh to 865 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,120 better understand 866 00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,080 the the full three-dimensional uh scope 867 00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:44,399 of what the geology looks like in 868 00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,519 jezreel thank you 869 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:50,000 thank you so much lori our third caller 870 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:50,960 is a leo 871 00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,200 enright from irish television 872 00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:57,519 thanks very much uh marina i i was 873 00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:58,240 wondering 874 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,559 um your mission is uh clearly to collect 875 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:05,760 uh science but it is also to collect 876 00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,120 samples uh and i'm wondering how you 877 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,519 balance the two 878 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,440 in the old days back in apollo i was 879 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,760 actually in the mission control center 880 00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,320 and there was somebody with a stopwatch 881 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:20,559 timing the astronauts at each sample 882 00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,120 point 883 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:23,440 and saying now you've done your time 884 00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,720 move on 885 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,480 is there going to be that sort of 886 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:28,799 pressure because you have in a sense the 887 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,240 future looking over your shoulder 888 00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,159 i can take that one i'll take that one 889 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,799 leo it's a very very good question 890 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,120 and you're absolutely right there is 891 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,880 some incredible science that we're going 892 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,080 to be able to do 893 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,120 while we're in situ the great science 894 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,720 but one of the main objectives of this 895 00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,640 mission is to collect 896 00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:50,640 samples a diverse collection of 897 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,159 scientific samples 898 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:54,240 that can be collected by mars sample 899 00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:56,000 return and we do have those 900 00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,760 tubes with us we want to make sure that 901 00:34:02,789 --> 00:33:59,840 within our prime mission which is 902 00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:02,799 two earth years one mars year uh that we 903 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,519 do collect 904 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,320 a scientifically justifiable sample that 905 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:08,399 allows us to return to mars and collect 906 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:09,040 those 907 00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,800 so we will be doing science along the 908 00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,399 way we'll also be using 909 00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,879 our science instruments to help us best 910 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,919 identify the 911 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,520 the samples that we do want to collect 912 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,200 and bring back to make sure that we are 913 00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,960 collecting a scientifically diverse set 914 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,000 of samples 915 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,760 um so i wouldn't say that the stopwatch 916 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:25,440 is going to be on but we are actually 917 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,240 keeping 918 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,879 an eye on uh that we're making progress 919 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:29,679 and 920 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:33,679 many samples as we can in diverse 921 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,790 thank you lori and thank you leo for 922 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:42,960 calling in our next caller 923 00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,000 is peter warren with the star tribune 924 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:48,800 good afternoon peter 925 00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,520 hi thanks for uh doing this there's just 926 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,839 questions for sylvestre and sort of 927 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:56,159 more about the process and working with 928 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:57,280 people than the actual 929 00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,560 you know science you know what was it 930 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:01,040 like collaborating with with roger 931 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,630 well uh thanks so much i'm not sure i 932 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,400 got all the questions i'm sorry for that 933 00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,920 could you repeat the last part of your 934 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,359 question 935 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,520 yeah what was it like collaborating with 936 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:16,720 with roger 937 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,040 on on the supercam oh that's an easy one 938 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,240 it was great uh you know this kind of 939 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,720 project between two countries that are 940 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,240 so complex 941 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:29,680 you need to have an excellent 942 00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:32,000 relationship between the people first 943 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,680 so with roger wins we've been 944 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,040 collaborating together 945 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,160 for the last 20 years i guess 946 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:40,800 uh first on chemcam now on supercam and 947 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:41,760 we have 948 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:44,960 a future project hopefully so it's 949 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,240 it's fairly easy the trick was for us to 950 00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:49,760 have an instrument that you could define 951 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,240 on very 952 00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:53,440 on different parts uh we took in france 953 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,720 the upper part on the mast with simple 954 00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,560 interfaces with a rover 955 00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,880 and just one link to the body unit and 956 00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,839 they take care 957 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,680 and roger takes care of talking to the 958 00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,200 rover so you define 959 00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,040 your interface of your hardware you have 960 00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:09,119 a good relationship and life is easy 961 00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:10,000 honestly 962 00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,270 well thank you so much for that 963 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:19,119 sylvester and thank you to peter for 964 00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,400 calling in now we're going to switch 965 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,839 over to social media 966 00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:24,000 remember you can ask questions on our 967 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,839 social media platform by using the 968 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,880 hashtag 969 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:30,000 countdown to mars the first question 970 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,280 is carol on facebook she asks does any 971 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:34,880 of the science in the mars 972 00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,640 2020 mission give insight to benefit 973 00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,359 human health luther would you like to 974 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,119 take that 975 00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:44,800 oh i've never been asked that question 976 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:47,359 before um i think that a lot of what we 977 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:47,920 do 978 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,680 we're trying to 979 00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:54,320 make portable and miniaturized and 980 00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:55,200 different 981 00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,880 which you can easily 982 00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,560 move out into the commercial field i 983 00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,160 know that a lot of 984 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,920 what we're doing on mars and what we did 985 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,359 for sherlock can 986 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,440 it is going to be integrated into uh 987 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,200 food chains to understand 988 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,680 whether there's contamination um whether 989 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:13,680 there's insects uh contamination and 990 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:14,720 things like that 991 00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,680 and that really does uh does it plays a 992 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,520 part it's commercialization 993 00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,200 the laser that we developed will get 994 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,839 smaller and more robust and be able to 995 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,920 fit in food trucks and things like that 996 00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,440 and i think every instrument 997 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:30,000 probably can tell that same story thank 998 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:31,359 you luther 999 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:34,400 conrad on facebook asks when can we see 1000 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,119 the first 1001 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,839 video and pictures from landing do you 1002 00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:40,640 want to take that jim 1003 00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:43,839 sure so everything goes according to 1004 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,320 plan 1005 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,800 on thursday it's possible we could get 1006 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:47,359 the 1007 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,119 wide angle 1008 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:53,440 images uh down in that very first 1009 00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,960 downlink of course you know we don't 1010 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:56,400 know exactly how everything's going to 1011 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,119 go 1012 00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,680 uh but if if not then and there's uh i 1013 00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,440 believe mars odyssey pass just a few 1014 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,480 hours after 1015 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,240 landing maybe three hours or so that 1016 00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,920 could provide an opportunity for some of 1017 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:07,040 the first images 1018 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,040 and you know we land with the the mast 1019 00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,480 down tucked onto the deck for safety 1020 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,119 and so we won't pop that that mast up 1021 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,960 for a day or two 1022 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,280 and then once we do that then the mass 1023 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,160 cam z's the navigation cameras supercam 1024 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,320 uh can really start to see the uh the 1025 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,320 surroundings in the landscape so 1026 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:29,200 i would i would expect and certainly in 1027 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,160 planning 1028 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,720 uh that uh sort of over the over the 1029 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,720 course of the weekend as various 1030 00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:37,280 press conferences and other events uh go 1031 00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,400 on with updates 1032 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:40,480 on the mission that the imaging data 1033 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:41,920 will start to roll out 1034 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:45,200 uh pretty quickly also as part of that 1035 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:47,040 those early downlinks some of that some 1036 00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:48,400 of the movies that the cameras are 1037 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,520 taking as 1038 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,839 the rover comes down there are there are 1039 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,040 video cameras 1040 00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,839 that are recording the parachute uh uh 1041 00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,359 from the rover looking up that are 1042 00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,119 recording the rover from the 1043 00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,359 descent stage looking down that are 1044 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:03,599 recording the ground getting closer 1045 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,400 as we get uh closer to the surface parts 1046 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,240 of those movies could start coming down 1047 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:11,200 within the first few days as well and 1048 00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:12,480 then looking a little bit into the 1049 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,040 future 1050 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,599 as we get preparing for the helicopter 1051 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:17,680 operations we'll be using the mass cam z 1052 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,400 cameras 1053 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,720 to take movies of the helicopter flights 1054 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,200 and i'm really excited about uh doing 1055 00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,880 that and sharing those movies 1056 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,400 with the public as well as of course 1057 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,480 with the engineering team 1058 00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,240 we are all getting excited to see that 1059 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:32,079 for sure thank you jim we have a 1060 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,359 follow-up question 1061 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:35,599 from leo and wright with irish 1062 00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,400 television 1063 00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:39,359 good afternoon leo yeah thanks sir 1064 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,320 thanks again 1065 00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:42,560 um just actually for jim bell you just 1066 00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:43,599 mentioned uh 1067 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,839 the uh the helicopter uh how quickly 1068 00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,599 is this gonna happen what they call 1069 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:51,119 their uh 1070 00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:54,400 their right moment um is that is that 1071 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,040 gonna happen 1072 00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:58,160 very quickly uh 1073 00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,839 i i think it'll it's going to happen 1074 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,440 early in the mission 1075 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,480 uh you know it's going to take some many 1076 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,560 days perhaps several weeks for the 1077 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,480 engineers to do all the checkouts that 1078 00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:09,599 are required 1079 00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,640 of the basic rover systems themselves 1080 00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,319 as well as the scientific instruments 1081 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,480 all that has to happen first the sort of 1082 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,400 initial checkout phase 1083 00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,640 of the mission and the helicopter folks 1084 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,240 are also doing some checkouts of the 1085 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:24,160 helicopter and its battery and its 1086 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:24,800 systems 1087 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:27,440 while it's still attached to the rover 1088 00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,720 and then 1089 00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,240 as you may have seen in the previous 1090 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:32,079 press briefing it's a 1091 00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,440 multi-day process multi-sol process 1092 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,599 on mars to release the helicopter 1093 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,440 release its shield 1094 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:42,000 protective shield and then deploy it 1095 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:43,520 onto the surface and then the rover 1096 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,960 backs away and there's a bunch of 1097 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,720 checkouts that happen there 1098 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,200 so i would anticipate it could be you 1099 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,520 know many weeks to perhaps even a month 1100 00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,040 into the mission 1101 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,599 before we get to those first flights but 1102 00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:57,599 it's all going to depend on 1103 00:41:01,109 --> 00:41:00,079 the reality on the ground on how 1104 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,119 everything has 1105 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,040 is checking out during those initial 1106 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,040 days 1107 00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,240 thank you jim and now we're going back 1108 00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:09,839 to social media 1109 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,200 spiffybilly on instagram asks 1110 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,000 what is the first science experiment to 1111 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:17,280 be conducted 1112 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,910 sure uh well as you've heard a number of 1113 00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,119 times now the 1114 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,680 the first weeks of the mission uh are 1115 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,960 about checking out 1116 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,119 all the systems uh the engineering 1117 00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:35,200 systems that are required to make the 1118 00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,480 rover run 1119 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,599 uh and the the engineering aspects of 1120 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:41,440 the science system so the inter 1121 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,720 instruments are being tested um as we 1122 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,800 test the instruments out just to make 1123 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,040 sure that they're functioning correctly 1124 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,520 we will of course have an opportunity 1125 00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,359 for instance the first time we 1126 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:56,319 we test out the supercam laser we will 1127 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,119 be 1128 00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,520 interested to to hit a specific target 1129 00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:01,359 and we'll start to get some science data 1130 00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,079 in 1131 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,599 but you asked the first science 1132 00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,280 experiment and to me 1133 00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,359 it's the the first images that come down 1134 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,040 i mean as soon as we get 1135 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,440 data uh image data really from the 1136 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:12,960 surface we can start 1137 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,599 making scientific interpretations uh so 1138 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:16,800 not only is it this 1139 00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,839 sort of incredibly inspiring moment 1140 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:22,000 uh to me anyway when we see the first 1141 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,440 images from a 1142 00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:25,839 another body in the solar system or 1143 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,960 another place 1144 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,480 you know on a planet we've visited 1145 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,560 before it's just such a thrilling thing 1146 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,280 but there's also science to be gained 1147 00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,750 thank you so much for that and now we're 1148 00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,680 headed back to the phone 1149 00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:42,960 ken creamer from space up close 1150 00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:46,400 good afternoon ken hi thank you for 1151 00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:47,839 taking my question and thank you for 1152 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,480 doing this 1153 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,880 um my simplest uh my question is about 1154 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,240 uh taking these uh 1155 00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,560 samples you're gonna put in the drill 1156 00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,079 can you talk a little bit about 1157 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,920 how the team is to work together and 1158 00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,000 which instruments they're going to use 1159 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:02,079 to figure out which which samples to 1160 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,040 drill 1161 00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,240 and to cash and and how many samples do 1162 00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:08,160 you plan to take in the first 1163 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:12,880 mars year thanks 1164 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,040 ken yeah so 1165 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:19,280 another great question it's it's similar 1166 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,079 to the one 1167 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,400 that laurie took earlier uh looking at 1168 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,160 the balance between 1169 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,040 uh as the previous person said sort of 1170 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,560 science and sampling 1171 00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,880 of course the samples you know the time 1172 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,760 we spend 1173 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,680 uh collecting the samples and 1174 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,480 documenting them very specifically 1175 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,319 is obviously uh in the interest of 1176 00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:40,800 science so those samples are scientific 1177 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:41,599 samples 1178 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:45,440 um a large part of the science we do 1179 00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,560 while we're not you know actively uh 1180 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,560 collecting a sample or in the in the few 1181 00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,160 days leading up to that 1182 00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,040 um is science that we're doing to 1183 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,440 provide context for those samples 1184 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,560 and so um i i will just say that on this 1185 00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:02,640 mission we've known from very early on 1186 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,000 early in our development that um we had 1187 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,160 major challenges in front of us in terms 1188 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:09,839 of our operations 1189 00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,720 planning and and this is because we we 1190 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,800 have tried from the very beginning 1191 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,960 to pack in an enormous amount of 1192 00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:18,319 capability 1193 00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:21,520 um to do things really well and to do 1194 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,000 things 1195 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,880 really quickly because this opportunity 1196 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,240 to 1197 00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:29,040 select scientifically and collect and 1198 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:29,599 return 1199 00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,599 samples from mars is so extraordinary 1200 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,760 that that we want to be able to really 1201 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,200 make it as rich 1202 00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:39,839 uh a mission as possible and so we've 1203 00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,640 been planning from very early on 1204 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,200 um strategically if you like it was a 1205 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,960 four or five year process 1206 00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:48,960 that led us to select our landing site 1207 00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,960 that was all part of the planning 1208 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,480 and then once we have the landing site 1209 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,160 we could use the science team to 1210 00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:56,160 to plan uh strategically more 1211 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,359 specifically 1212 00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,440 and so as we did that we would often go 1213 00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,359 back to this quote that's attributed to 1214 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:03,280 eisenhower that's something like 1215 00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:05,680 i've always found when going into battle 1216 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,319 that 1217 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:08,240 plans are useless but planning is 1218 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:09,440 indispensable 1219 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,960 and so so we we know that all this 1220 00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,240 planning effort 1221 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,119 is indispensable we have to do it it 1222 00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:19,520 helps us get better at refining our 1223 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,480 processes 1224 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:22,160 and finding that balance that we 1225 00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,599 mentioned earlier 1226 00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,680 the time we spend with the stopwatch on 1227 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,520 collecting the samples and the time 1228 00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,599 we allow ourselves to be driven a little 1229 00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,440 bit more by our curiosity and letting 1230 00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:33,440 this discovery lead us to the next 1231 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,240 we have to do both of those things uh to 1232 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,240 make the best of this opportunity and 1233 00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,560 and really it comes down to the time we 1234 00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,440 spend planning 1235 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,839 and then our ability to flexibly adapt 1236 00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,000 as mars inevitably throws surprises 1237 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:49,359 at us thank you so much ken 1238 00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,760 back you also sorry you also asked how 1239 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:53,599 many samples we're planning to collect 1240 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:56,480 which is a key question so we have 43 1241 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,280 sample tubes 1242 00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:59,599 on board so we we hope to collect you 1243 00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,560 know 40 1244 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:03,359 around 40 samples but but the idea is 1245 00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,760 that 1246 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,400 30 samples uh could be returned those 1247 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,079 return missions which are you know 1248 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,800 not final yet completely but but that's 1249 00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,720 the the capability that nasa is looking 1250 00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,359 at right now is the ability to return 30 1251 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,630 thank you so much next question is 1252 00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,079 coming from social media 1253 00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,560 a mall on twitter asks how will the 1254 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,040 microphone help you in exploring 1255 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:30,720 mars can you take that sylvester 1256 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:33,599 oh yes i can because that's an excellent 1257 00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:34,160 question 1258 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:36,079 because it's the first time we're having 1259 00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,280 microphones 1260 00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:39,839 on mars has been tried few times never 1261 00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:40,800 really 1262 00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,839 time we have two 1263 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,040 so one of them is mostly technology is 1264 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,200 going to recall the lending 1265 00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:51,680 and that is important and if it works 1266 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,640 after we learn 1267 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:54,319 is going to be used for science of 1268 00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,280 course the other one is part of supercam 1269 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,800 the id is it it's happening in a world 1270 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,560 where we know there are sounds because 1271 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:04,720 we produce sounds rather produce some 1272 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,319 laser produce sounds 1273 00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,480 but there are also winds different types 1274 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:10,720 of winds that create turbulence that's 1275 00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:11,200 one 1276 00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,040 atmosphere that propagates 1277 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,359 the sun's it does not propagate very 1278 00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:19,200 fast actually it's slower than earth it 1279 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,480 doesn't matter so much 1280 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,040 it's also dimmer it's very loud and the 1281 00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:24,480 high pitch 1282 00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,839 sounds don't propagate very well but 1283 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:30,240 put everything together yes we will hear 1284 00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,440 some new sounds 1285 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,200 with the atmosphere we're going to the 1286 00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,400 wind we're going to learn about the 1287 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:36,640 atmosphere turbulence the convections on 1288 00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:36,960 a 1289 00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:44,000 it's like 1290 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,440 knocking on the wood on on whatever 1291 00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,760 concrete you have by just listening to 1292 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,040 this uh 1293 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:54,079 zap we can infer what is the hardness of 1294 00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,040 the rocks so 1295 00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:57,839 it's it's a new place and a new place to 1296 00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,559 here 1297 00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,160 and we're really excited with these two 1298 00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,400 microphones 1299 00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:04,640 thank you sylvester we go back to the 1300 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,599 phone lines 1301 00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:07,520 with a follow-up question from leo 1302 00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,880 enright with irish television leo 1303 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,880 uh thanks very thanks very much uh 1304 00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:14,319 marina sorry for 1305 00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,119 for uh dominating but uh since the 1306 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,599 opportunity is here i wanted to ask dr 1307 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:20,800 maurice 1308 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,760 about the french operations center for 1309 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:25,599 science and exploration 1310 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,960 i i think the acronym is foxy um 1311 00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:31,119 can you talk a little bit about how that 1312 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:32,240 is going to operate 1313 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,359 uh during the the time that the rover is 1314 00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,559 on mars and 1315 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,960 uh you know what opportunities are there 1316 00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:39,760 for young 1317 00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,359 europeans uh uh french obviously but 1318 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,839 also germans and even irish to get 1319 00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:46,800 involved 1320 00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,990 well uh thanks for this uh great 1321 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,839 question and i mean 1322 00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:57,839 and norway could introduce that it's an 1323 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,760 international i mean it's a nasa 1324 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,520 mission but with an international 1325 00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:03,520 partnership and to build the 1326 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,559 instrument to do the science but also to 1327 00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:07,680 operate 1328 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,040 operations center 1329 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,079 here in toulouse at canest and that it 1330 00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:16,640 is to support supercam operation but you 1331 00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,359 know when you 1332 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:19,839 operate supercab you need resources from 1333 00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,640 the rover 1334 00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,480 you need to find what jim is doing with 1335 00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:24,000 this camera at the same time because 1336 00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,599 we're sharing the same mast 1337 00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,319 so operating an instrument it's kind of 1338 00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,720 being part of big game operating the 1339 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:32,160 whole rover together 1340 00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,440 and for that reason we have an 1341 00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:35,680 operational center in france for super 1342 00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:36,160 cam 1343 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,920 every other week rest of the time it's 1344 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:39,680 in los alamos because we also need to 1345 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,319 rest 1346 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,160 but there's an operational center at gm 1347 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,480 place and at jpl 1348 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,240 in early europe we have another one in 1349 00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,040 spain for the meda instrument in norway 1350 00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:51,839 so everywhere we are operation center of 1351 00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,319 course 1352 00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:55,359 it is for the team we are welcoming our 1353 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,240 students 1354 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,240 it's a great way for them to learn how 1355 00:50:02,390 --> 00:49:59,920 we operate a spacecraft 1356 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:02,400 and it is by operating a spacecraft an 1357 00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,119 instrument 1358 00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:05,680 you can really dive into the science and 1359 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,319 that's 1360 00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:08,880 really the spirit of this mission that 1361 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,599 everyone 1362 00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,760 who is doing science should try if 1363 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,160 possible to be part of the ops 1364 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,160 process because that's that's where you 1365 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:18,000 define what kind of science you want to 1366 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,480 do 1367 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,800 can be in europe it can be everywhere in 1368 00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:21,599 the us 1369 00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,000 it's all together 1370 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,920 thank you so much sylvester and on that 1371 00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:29,680 line of inspiring the next 1372 00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,640 generation christina on facebook asks 1373 00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:34,400 how will you be inspiring school 1374 00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:35,119 children 1375 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,599 and in particular girls into science 1376 00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:39,520 through perseverance lori can you take 1377 00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:40,640 that 1378 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,599 is absolutely inspirational and 1379 00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,000 certainly uh you know perseverance rover 1380 00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,079 is no exception an ingenuity helicopter 1381 00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,079 as well no exception these are 1382 00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,480 absolutely inspirational and so i 1383 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,760 certainly encourage 1384 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,359 anyone that's out there to make sure you 1385 00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:05,280 check out we've got materials that are 1386 00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:05,920 available 1387 00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:09,680 online at go.nasa.gov 1388 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:13,119 mars toolkit i believe and make sure you 1389 00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,400 check that out because 1390 00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,160 i'm sorry stem toolkit i think it's the 1391 00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,760 mars stem toolkit 1392 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,359 and and make sure you check that out 1393 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,520 there's all kinds of ways for 1394 00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:23,359 students around the world to get engaged 1395 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:24,640 through the the mars 1396 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:27,599 perseverance challenge get engaged there 1397 00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,480 there's 1398 00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:30,160 lots and lots of opportunities for 1399 00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,240 engagement and to get involved 1400 00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:34,800 with nasa and come along with us as we 1401 00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,280 as we 1402 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,040 go through this incredibly exciting time 1403 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,160 to land but also as we go forward 1404 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,480 stay engaged and and follow us as we 1405 00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,800 explore mars 1406 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,960 thank you lori and another question for 1407 00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:48,880 you from citizen science 1408 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,119 are you going to accept volunteers to 1409 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,200 analyze information we get from the 1410 00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,280 rover 1411 00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:58,400 i can take that one as well there are 1412 00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:59,839 always opportunities 1413 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:02,160 for citizen science and this is another 1414 00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,119 area that 1415 00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,000 we are really excited about the 1416 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,920 incredible discoveries that citizen 1417 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:09,599 scientists are making across the board 1418 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:09,839 in 1419 00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,920 tons of data available through through 1420 00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,280 this mission 1421 00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:18,960 and i'm sure that there will be 1422 00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,400 opportunities i don't know of them 1423 00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,599 specifically that i can 1424 00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,040 cite right now but i know that there 1425 00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:24,720 will be specific opportunities and i 1426 00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,839 don't know if any of the instrument 1427 00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:27,359 folks that are online with us know of 1428 00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:29,040 anything related to their instruments 1429 00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:30,480 they might want to share 1430 00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,760 but i know that there's going to be an 1431 00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:33,359 incredible amount of data and and 1432 00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,119 citizen science is is a great 1433 00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,720 opportunity again 1434 00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,119 to uh to enhance what we are able to do 1435 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:41,119 with our science teams which are only so 1436 00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,400 many people and there's just an 1437 00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:44,800 incredible amount of data out there 1438 00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:47,520 a lot of ways to get involved i could 1439 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:48,400 chime in a little bit 1440 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,000 on that as well marina go ahead jim 1441 00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:54,480 oh sure so uh just a couple of things 1442 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,079 from an imaging perspective 1443 00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,480 you know we will be sharing all of the 1444 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,119 images from all of those cameras 1445 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,119 on the rover shortly after landing 1446 00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,440 they'll go out onto a website that jpl 1447 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,520 is hosting and we've done this with 1448 00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,760 previous rovers spirit opportunity and 1449 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,200 other nasa missions 1450 00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:14,000 so that gets real data imaging data into 1451 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,079 the hands of anybody who wants to 1452 00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,079 do anything with it and and sort of 1453 00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:19,839 acknowledging the fact that 1454 00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,440 there is a large community of amateur 1455 00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,520 imaging enthusiasts and people who make 1456 00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:26,480 their own 1457 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,119 andy warhol false color composites and 1458 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,200 mosaics and panoramas 1459 00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,680 will have a place on the asu mass camzy 1460 00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,040 website where people can 1461 00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,200 upload the products that they've 1462 00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,040 produced from masscam z 1463 00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:41,119 data and then we'll feature some of 1464 00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:42,079 those and 1465 00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:44,000 you know talk about what kids are doing 1466 00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,520 or kids with their teachers for class 1467 00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:46,800 projects 1468 00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:49,280 or just other enthusiasts so i totally 1469 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:49,839 agree 1470 00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,720 with uh with lori that we're our aim is 1471 00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,280 to involve as many people as possible 1472 00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:57,040 getting their hands on some real data 1473 00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:58,559 and making some real contributions to 1474 00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:05,910 yes ken yeah i just wanted to quickly 1475 00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:06,559 say 1476 00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:09,119 we are looking at at some very specific 1477 00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,480 citizen science 1478 00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,040 initiatives um that aren't ready right 1479 00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,119 yet but but do stay tuned 1480 00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,400 uh and join in with us down the line um 1481 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,079 but i also wanted to comment on on the 1482 00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:22,240 last question what are we doing to 1483 00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,280 to inspire young folks and 1484 00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:27,680 uh i was just thinking about it as we 1485 00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,400 were talking 1486 00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,960 and the earliest so we're collecting 1487 00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:32,720 samples with the intention that they 1488 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:33,599 could be returned 1489 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,720 to earth for for future work by 1490 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,400 maybe scientists who are currently 1491 00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,000 working or 1492 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,280 future scientists and so imagining 1493 00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,359 people on a trajectory where they go say 1494 00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:47,359 straight from an undergraduate 1495 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,119 science degree straight into graduate 1496 00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,960 school and have a 1497 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:53,119 graduate school a phd project that's 1498 00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:54,559 working on these samples 1499 00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,000 the earliest day will come back is 2031. 1500 00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:00,880 so if a student is say 22 graduating 1501 00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,599 from college 1502 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,599 getting ready to go for to grad school 1503 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:05,680 that person could be 12 years old right 1504 00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,000 now 1505 00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,319 10 or 12 years old out there just 1506 00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,240 getting you know really turned on 1507 00:55:13,470 --> 00:55:12,319 to science so i think mars sample return 1508 00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:13,480 in that it's this 1509 00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:16,880 intergenerational uh effort um 1510 00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,000 is just a great way uh for you know 1511 00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,040 science teachers and and uh us as a 1512 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,359 you know a world community to to get and 1513 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:27,599 stay excited about science the potential 1514 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,880 is so enormous thank you so much ken 1515 00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:33,040 yes that potential is there we 1516 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:34,000 unfortunately can't 1517 00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,640 answer all of the media questions on air 1518 00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,000 for those of you with additional 1519 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,400 questions please call jpl's digital news 1520 00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,680 and media office 1521 00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,359 we'll also continue to answer your 1522 00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,799 social media questions 1523 00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,520 online for the rest of the day thank you 1524 00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,000 for your 1525 00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:50,079 questions and thank you so much to all 1526 00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:51,119 of our panelists 1527 00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:54,000 for joining us today tomorrow at 10 a.m 1528 00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:55,359 pacific standard time 1529 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,520 we will have a briefing giving us a 1530 00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:59,520 final landing mission update 1531 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:01,760 and then at 12 p.m we'll dive into a 1532 00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:04,079 briefing on searching for signs of 1533 00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,119 ancient life 1534 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,680 and the mars sample return mission 1535 00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:10,000 perseverance is set to land on mars on 1536 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:11,520 february 18th 1537 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,400 with commentary beginning at 11 15 a.m 1538 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,079 pacific standard time 1539 00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,240 and we are offering lots of ways to ride 1540 00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,440 along with us 1541 00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,599 to join the virtual nasa social and 1542 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,119 virtual guest events 1543 00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,440 register for the mission to mars student 1544 00:56:31,870 --> 00:56:27,760 challenge laurie mentioned this earlier 1545 00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,880 and live stream the mars landing visit 1546 00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,599 go.nasa.gov 1547 00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,559 mars 2020 toolkit for those of you 1548 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,240 interested in a deeper dive 1549 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:40,960 we have a new press kit available online 1550 00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,440 too 1551 00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,440 with lots of information and graphics 1552 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,920 describing the rover and its mission 1553 00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,680 there you'll also have a chance to sign 1554 00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,599 up to send your name to mars 1555 00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:52,960 on nasa's next flight to the red planet 1556 00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,839 and put yourself 1557 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,599 right into the action with our 1558 00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,520 perseverance photo booth 1559 00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:59,920 you can pose next to the rover place 1560 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:01,760 yourself in our mission control 1561 00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:04,240 and even see what you might look like 1562 00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,520 taking a selfie 1563 00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:08,079 on the red planet again it's all 1564 00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:08,799 available 1565 00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:12,400 at dot go.nasa.gov 1566 00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,760 slash mars 2020 toolkit if you're on 1567 00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,839 social media join the conversation with 1568 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,160 the mission on facebook and twitter 1569 00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,880 follow at nasa persevere and use the 1570 00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,920 hashtag 1571 00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:26,720 countdown to mars thank you so much for 1572 00:58:34,829 --> 00:57:28,240 watching with us today